Many Folks are asking – “Why in the world doesn’t the
republican party and the popular conservative talk show hosts get on board with
this?” I got a chance to ask one and
here is the dialog. Hope this helps you
understand the complex dynamics of a very crazy situation.
Steve,
thanks. Our newsroom is one person, Carleen. Nothing personal intended by any
of my comments, it's just I have been through similar stories in previous
elections before and they always come up dry. Something about Occam. If you
are right, I will lead the parade of those apologizing. Kirby
Thank
you Kirby for your reply your candor and your part in leading the charge.
I understand that for the main stream folks to make a deal out of this could
come across as admitting you can't win on the issues so you are digging for
technicalities. I don't mind being considered fringe to play that roll. There
is meat to both of these lawsuits regardless of the flawed messenger(s).
But I hear you. The messenger is far more the problem than the message -
however, if there was nothing to it - 1) the Federal judge would have
tossed it out by now and 2) Obama would have released his records to the judge
for independent review and made some political hay over the matter while he was
at it. That is the fundamental basis for my pursuit of this.
The papers will be served on the Secretary tomorrow or Thurs
latest and the Attorney General should have a copy by now. I will move for a
preliminary injunctive hearing in the next few days.
Funny thing, I was instead planning a billboard campaign like I ran
last election, but I found out that Issaquah passed changes to their statutes
specifically prohibiting my billboards. After all the attacks on my billboards
and the resulting arrests, they decided my 1st amendment rights weren't worth
their trouble. I was about to sue them for violating my free speech rights
when I figured - heck If I'm going to do that I might as well go for the real
problem. My signs attracted more police action than anything I ever heard in
the news state wide but no news agency including your own news room
ever publicized my efforts or the considerable controversy. If this is
news to you, take a look at this http://peoplespassions.org/peoplesvoice/journals_of_political_battles.html
Anyway, Kirby, I am a pretty educated person, a hard broiled
engineer by trade and at this point I truly have no confidence that Mr. I hate
America, I work for Terrorists, Obama is even a citizen let alone a Natural
born one. If he was foreign born to a communist father raised to some extent in
foreign lands, does he have a foreign agenda? Certainly, his policies are as
socialist as what his father tried to achieve in Kenya. I don't think the apple
fell far from the tree.
Kirby if you have evidence to the contrary - that I am barking up
an empty tree - please disabuse me of this gross misunderstanding - this is no
small undertaking I am about - do save me the trouble, the personal angst and
my wallet!
Sincerely,
Yours in the good cause,
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: Kirby Wilbur
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 4:58 AM
To: steve.marquis
Subject: RE: Lawsuit
It was not simply an
appeal to authority, which you wouldn't know exactly because you didn't hear
the 5:00 hour. I have been through a lot of elections Steve, and a lot of
rumors and theories and other issues. I can tell you this is going nowhere,
personal opinion, and if we are to beat Obama, it will be on the issues. he is
beatable, but…every ounce of effort and every dollar spent on the lawsuit
represents misspent resources in my opinion. I appreciate your efforts and
those of everyone else, but they lead to a blind alley, and we don't need an
attorney in Pennsylvania with a flawed record of judgment leading the charge.
Others whose judgment I trust in national political matters have looked at this
and share my opinion. So, I have to be honest with you and all of my
listeners, I owe you all that.
From:
steve.marquis
To: Kirby
Subject: Lawsuit
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:29:25 -0700
I was up late last night preparing the summons papers that I
sent out via process servers today to Mr. Reed Secretary of State and Rob
McKenna AG. With only a little sleep, I got up at 6AM just in time to hear
you dismiss a caller's concerns saying something like " we spent
last hour talking about the birth certificate question, but this is the same
guy that called for nations leaders to censure President Bush/Cheney after
911..."
Basically you dismissed the caller with a logical fallacy of
"appeal to authority" disparaging the credibility of Berg as a
credible individual rather than arguing why Berg is all wet in the arguments in
his federal suit. I was disappointed. I was also disappointed that you did not
attempt to invite me to the debate as I think I have something to say that your
listeners might resonate with. If you have read my petition, I think you would
find my arguments if not compelling at least reasonable- hardly the rants of a
crank.
In my lawsuit I set a much lower threshold to clear - I need
only show that reasonable doubt has been raised and for the sake of the
people's confidence in the process, the Secretary of State should demand
documented proof and make the issue go away.
I have reasoned arguments regarding the Secretary's
jurisdiction in the matter that impressed my uncle retired Judge Marquis as
"interesting" arguments.
I am aware of some weaknesses in a few of Berg's arguments -
don't let his motives or eccentric nature entirely prejudice you in
this matter. Obama has done nothing to assuage the concerns many have raised -
nothing at all.
I remain one of your fans,
Sincerely,
Steve